thx guys i just got back from superstition marine . told john and firdt thing he said was, are you using cheap. i said no the pennzoil semi synth from bps. he gave me hell, again, for not spening the big bucks on evenrude oil. anyway he said the oil got so thick from the cold it wouldnt pull through the very small hole it goes through to the engine. case solved.no money spent. its all good.