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Offline AZfisherdude

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San Carlos permits
« on: September 14, 2011, 01:27 PM »
I haven't been to SC at all this year. Where do I get the permits? Still at that Circle K in Globe? Also, they are open 24hours right? Anyone been lately? I was looking at going on Monday if everything works out. What about minnows? Do they have them at the store there at the lake? I heard it was opened.

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Re: San Carlos permits
« Reply #1 on: September 14, 2011, 02:59 PM »
Rumor has it that the lake is extremely low - like at <1%!  Nobody that I know has been out there or even talked with others that have been on the lake due to the low water level.  I'm curious myself on the exact conditions - it's been in the back of my mind to take my little tin boat out to see what's up.

If you do go, permits at either the Circle K you mentioned or the Bashas' at the lake turnoff.  Not sure if the Bashas is open all night.  I'd get minnows elsewhere like Kilmers or Liar's Corner.  Take a lot of pics for us if you go out there!

Here is a link for the lake data: http://waterdata.usgs.gov/az/nwis/uv?cb_00054=on&cb_00065=on&format=gif_default&period=60&site_no=09469000

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Re: San Carlos permits
« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2011, 03:06 PM »
Yeah, that is crazy low! I think I will give it a try though. I'll be sure to take some pics. I can't imagine what it looks like being that low.

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Re: San Carlos permits
« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2011, 03:08 PM »
Think it was Piscolli that mentioned that the depth at da dam was at 12' ish.....

Good luck and please take a lot of pics - I'm sure everybody here has been wondering what the lake looks like.

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Re: San Carlos permits
« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2011, 10:36 PM »
I won't waste your time, if you want Crappie anyway. According to USGS today the lake is about 1/2% and yes, about 12' in the deepest spot by the dam. Launching will be a tough and navigating on the water is just plain dangerous. Please the flatheads are probably eating everything they see. I'd try Bartlett instead. There have been some Crappie being caught including some real lunkers. I may go Friday.
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Re: San Carlos permits
« Reply #5 on: September 15, 2011, 03:08 PM »
hmmmm, what area of Bart? Up by Yellow Cliffs? I was there a few weeks ago and all we saw were babies.  Is the water still low there as well?

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Re: San Carlos permits
« Reply #6 on: September 15, 2011, 03:31 PM »
Cat Bay just past the cliffs on the right. Lake at 49%
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Re: San Carlos permits
« Reply #7 on: September 16, 2011, 10:45 AM »
Wow, when do they start filling it up again? Is it this low for this long every year? I don't fish Bartlett all that often but it is a cool lake.

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Re: San Carlos permits
« Reply #8 on: September 16, 2011, 11:38 AM »
Fill it with what? Horseshoe above Bartlett is empty.
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Re: San Carlos permits
« Reply #9 on: September 17, 2011, 08:21 AM »
Fill it with what? Horseshoe above Bartlett is empty.

I think he is talking about San Carlos.  The Bartlett part is seperate.

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Re: San Carlos permits
« Reply #10 on: September 17, 2011, 10:24 AM »
Nah, I was talking about Bart. I should have phrased my question differently I suppose. When dose it begin to raise again? I wasn't aware that Horseshoe was empty. Are they still releasing water from Bart? Seriously, I am just making conversation and trying to learn something at the same time.

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Re: San Carlos permits
« Reply #11 on: September 17, 2011, 05:45 PM »
Nah, I was talking about Bart. I should have phrased my question differently I suppose. When dose it begin to raise again? I wasn't aware that Horseshoe was empty. Are they still releasing water from Bart? Seriously, I am just making conversation and trying to learn something at the same time.

AZ, I wasn't trying to be a smart ass but without rain or run off, none of our desert lakes will rise. Right now SRP is releasing 125 cfs from Bartlett, which is pretty much the minimum to keep the Verde River flowing. At current level it can be tricky to launch but the fishing is usually better. At least if you know where there are under water trees and or rock piles are. The Cat Bay area should be about 20' deep right now with the river channel close by at 25'.

I fish B-Lett a lot in the fall, say from Oct to Christmas and usually do better in the afternoon. Last year I did pretty good, the year before I did really good. I leave my house about 12:30, that put me on the water with minnows and wet line by about 2 pm. I will fish by trolling baits away from the sun until about the last 30 minutes of daylight and head in with enough time to get the boat on the trailer before its dark.

I didn't get out Friday but was hoping to go Monday. Its going to be a game time decision as I have other things going on. But that's what I love about the afternoon bite this time of year. I don;t have to plan to much and its not far from home. I hope that helps.
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Re: San Carlos permits
« Reply #12 on: September 18, 2011, 02:47 PM »
Yeah, thanks Bill. No worries man I have tough skin  :greengrin: It has been ridiculously dry this year. Thing is, I didn't really start fishing various lakes until 2 years ago and then we had all that rain so my understanding and experience with these conditions is a work in progress. Also, I forgot that the Verde feeds the canals too. Is this the lowest you have seen Bart? I don't fish Bartlett typically unless I can get someone to go with since not riding in the carpool lane adds a good half hour to the trip. I'll be trying it out this fall for sure. I just like to try different things. Done some catfishing, bass fishing, striper fishing, and ocean fishing this summer but haven't really tried much crappie fishing. I think I am out of practice LOL. I am going somewhere tomorrow so I'll post some pics and a report when I get back hopefully!

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Re: San Carlos permits
« Reply #13 on: September 18, 2011, 05:52 PM »
weather forecast for this winter does not look good, la ninya which normally means warmer and dryer winter (like last year)

SRP normally swiches over to the verde side (bartlett) about the first week in october and shuts down the salt side, with no water in horseshoe to release into bartlett it may be real real low by this spring with no winter precip (sure hope not)

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Re: San Carlos permits
« Reply #14 on: September 19, 2011, 06:19 AM »
Is this the lowest you have seen Bart?

Yes, at least since 03 when I got my boat and started paying attention to lake levels. I have Bartlett since 1990 but it was shoreline stuff. But I'm sure Fishless has seen it lower, he's fished it for many more years than I have.
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