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Fishing and Dock Talk => Crappie Gear => Topic started by: menrats on January 02, 2011, 04:51 PM

Title: cold weather blues or trouble?
Post by: menrats on January 02, 2011, 04:51 PM
get to rosey at 10 put boat motor fires right up. park and come back. fire up engine and by the time i troll to the bouys the no oil light fires. shut er down and wait a little. fir er up and 30 secs later same warning. so two flares of the engine im on the dock. two more and im on the trailer. back to cg. boat sits in the sun till 330. fire it up and it runs in the driveway for ten minutes no troubles.
150 oil injection 04 evinrude. only rig at schoolhouse the sheriff said there were two rigs at windy abd one at cholla. i had them slabs all to myself chit.
so just a temp freeze issue, it was down to low20s last night, or do i got more issues?  :dontknow:
Title: Re: cold weather blues or trouble?
Post by: Fish Hawk on January 02, 2011, 05:23 PM
check oil level, check oil pickup screen/filter for blockage, check VRO pump. Mine uste to do the something, it was the F'n VRO pump ($325 for the pump i put it in)
Title: Re: cold weather blues or trouble?
Post by: menrats on January 03, 2011, 07:12 AM
ouch vro pump 325. how bout i just dump oil into the gas tank for awhile. that was my old mans solution. taking it in this morn for a look see. frickin whip out another 5 bills chit.
Title: Re: cold weather blues or trouble?
Post by: PhishingPhreek on January 03, 2011, 09:19 AM
how bout i just dump oil into the gas tank for awhile. that was my old mans solution.

That's how we did it growing up in my parent's boat as well. But with my new boat, I can't do that. And if it can, I couldn't find out how. When my oil level got too low in my tank the boat just shut down. Didn't matter if I put oil in the fuel or not. The motor didn't detect oil from the reserve so it said "No way, I'm not working" Just a thought before you try putting the oil in there.
Title: Re: cold weather blues or trouble?
Post by: menrats on January 04, 2011, 07:16 AM
thx guys i just got back from superstition marine . told john and firdt thing he said was, are you using cheap. i said no the pennzoil semi synth from bps. he gave me hell, again, for not spening the big bucks on evenrude oil. anyway he said the oil got so thick from the cold it wouldnt pull through the very small hole it goes through to the engine. case solved.no money spent. its all good.
Title: Re: cold weather blues or trouble?
Post by: wally g on January 04, 2011, 07:21 AM
sounds like cold temp.problem.
do you use syn.blend it may help,
i use it in my 200 yamaha works great year round.


wally g
Title: Re: cold weather blues or trouble?
Post by: PhishingPhreek on January 04, 2011, 09:11 AM
Yeah, I got a load of crap a few years ago for the oil I was using when I took my boat to Performance Marine. The oil had reeked havoc on my internals and I had to spend up around 1,500 to fix it all. Now I use nothing but the Evinrude Synthetic.
Title: Re: cold weather blues or trouble?
Post by: menrats on January 04, 2011, 07:17 PM
no kidding holy smoke 35 per gal sounds cheap all of a sudden.
Title: Re: cold weather blues or trouble?
Post by: PhishingPhreek on January 04, 2011, 10:05 PM
Yup, that was exactly my thought!
Title: Re: cold weather blues or trouble?
Post by: T.K.O n Da Crappie on January 06, 2011, 11:39 PM
Can you get the Evinrude Synthetic oil cheaper in bulk anywhere?

$35 a gallon.......Yikes!  :banghead:

TKO

 :dance:
Title: Re: cold weather blues or trouble?
Post by: menrats on January 07, 2011, 06:31 AM
the evenrude cite has it for 32. just ordered some.
Title: Re: cold weather blues or trouble?
Post by: PhishingPhreek on January 07, 2011, 06:44 AM
I retract what I said. I use Mercury, not Evinrude. I can get "bulk" from Performance Marine. By "bulk" I mean I purchase a gallon from their bulk tank. It's a little cheaper than just buying a new gallon each time. I don't use my boat enough to need that purchase that much oil though. :-/
Title: Re: cold weather blues or trouble?
Post by: Stevert on January 08, 2011, 06:46 AM
I retract what I said. I use Mercury, not Evinrude. I can get "bulk" from Performance Marine. By "bulk" I mean I purchase a gallon from their bulk tank. It's a little cheaper than just buying a new gallon each time. I don't use my boat enough to need that purchase that much oil though. :-/

How much do they charge for the Merc synthetic bulk?  I think I bought it for 28 at Tempe when they were still around maybe 3 years ago. 
Title: Re: cold weather blues or trouble?
Post by: Fishless on January 08, 2011, 05:15 PM
Steve, I think I pay $26 per gallon, I have the mercury two gallon jug that I take in. You might call out there and talk to Sue but they fill the jug out of a 55 gallon barrel.
Title: Re: cold weather blues or trouble?
Post by: Stevert on January 08, 2011, 06:24 PM
Thanks bruce.  I'll check it out.
Title: Re: cold weather blues or trouble?
Post by: wadefisherman on February 06, 2011, 08:36 PM
I love my 4 stroke!  :3some:
Title: Re: cold weather blues or trouble?
Post by: Fishless on February 07, 2011, 05:04 AM
my next boat will have a 4 stroke, will go mercury, price for PM on a 4 stroke is about the same as the oil you will use in an opti, and the new 4 stroke only weigh about 25lbs heavier than the 2 stroke opti and mercury makes their own now with good results.

Brent at performance will tell you to go with the (company made oil) they know what is needed he also says most two strokes don't get cold enough here in AZ to thicken up the oil where it will not pull the oil up for use
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