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Bartlett / Is SB launch ramp still open?
« on: November 19, 2017, 03:22 PM »
Bartlett has dropped like a rock for weeks now figure the SB cove launch ramp is about done. Anyone know if the ramp is still open or closed off now?


Roosevelt / Installing habitat (they need volunteers)
« on: September 23, 2017, 08:58 AM »
Check out the video of Arizona Game and Fish Department installing fish habitat at Roosevelt Lake.

So far we have installed 168 fish habitat structures. During first week of October, we are having a huge volunteer effort to install more habitat at Roosevelt Lake. We have more than 400 structures to assemble and deploy. If you are interested in helping, email

General Discussion / SRP has a new water website
« on: August 28, 2017, 06:30 AM »
SRP just fired up their new water website the old site will go off line some time in Sept. You can look at lake levels runoffs, watershed flows even go into the precipitaiton/watershed part of the site and look at the history on an individual lake as far going up or down in elevation.

They were showing pictures of flooded roads and washes near the Frye fire on Mt. Graham which lots of the water flows into the Gila river. Wonder if they are getting that terrible sludge and black ash along with the fire retardant (which they dropped a bunch on) that fire into San Carlos, man it could mess things up with that lake being so small :dontknow:

 crappie like to suspend in 15' of water so they may be in the kill zone?
May 26, 2017
Arizona Game and Fish Department

Fishing tournaments temporarily suspended on Apache, Canyon and Saguaro Lakes
PHOENIX -- To protect large fish that are targeted by tournament anglers, the Arizona Game and Fish Department has requested that the USDA Forest Service temporarily suspend angler tournaments from Apache, Canyon and Saguaro Lakes until environmental conditions improve.

Golden alga blooms have developed over large portions of Saguaro and Apache Lakes. Golden alga produces a toxin (prymnesin) that affects any organism with gills. Currently, the primary species that is being affected is threadfin shad. However, sunfish in Saguaro have also begun to die and Asiatic clams are dying by the tens of thousands. Golden alga toxin can be detected by fish and they will seek areas of refuge were they can recover; however, clams canít move and they die where they live.

A day after a recent bass tournament at Apache Lake, 38 two- to eight-pound dead bass were counted at the release site. These bass were caught in an area of no or low toxicity and released in an area of an active toxic golden alga bloom. Other than threadfin shad, no other dead fish species were observed at the release site (no sunfish, catfish, carp or small dead bass were encountered).

Some tournament participants stated they were having difficulty keeping their bass alive in the live well. If fish are caught below a toxic layer and placed in a live well, the golden alga toxin can then be delivered straight to the fish if the bloom is active on the surface. Basically, these fish were removed from an area where they could survive to an area where they could not.

Golden alga blooms are not a public health threat. The toxins that golden alga produce are only harmful to gill-breathing organisms such as fish and clams, and there is no evidence they are harmful to people, livestock or other animals. However, as a common sense precaution, fish that are found dead or dying should not be consumed.​​​​​​​

Based on previous experience with golden alga blooms on these three reservoirs, the Game and Fish Department has found that as the water warms up, other algae communities will begin to dominate and the golden alga blooms diminish. The department anticipates this will occur by late June or early July.

Alamo / Dock repaired and installed at main ramp
« on: April 12, 2017, 06:55 AM »
G and F crews got the dock fixed and installed at the main ramp at Alamo lake so now there is a dock at both ramps :dance:

Am I reading this right? a 25 mile detour to get to San Carlos lake coming from Globe??? the map which will not post shows it starting right at the Apache Gold Casino?

Construction and 25-mile detour planned at US 70 and BIA 6

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Improvement project requires full closure of BIA 6 at US 70

Plan for 25-mile detour while work is underway

The first phase of a project to improve safety and traffic flow on the San Carlos Apache Reservation will require a full closure of BIA 6 at US 70 beginning Wednesday, April 5, and continuing approximately four weeks. A 25-mile detour will be in place while the intersection is closed 24 hours a day, seven days a week, through early May.

Drivers should use US 70 east to BIA 170, and then north approximately four miles to reconnect with westbound BIA 6 (see detour map below).

The Arizona Department of Transportation, in cooperation with the San Carlos Apache Tribe and Federal Highway Administration, is constructing a right‐turn lane for westbound US 70 to northbound BIA 6 and an acceleration lane for traffic entering westbound US 70 from southbound BIA 6; installing a drainage culvert; milling and replacing pavement on US 70 and BIA 6; replacing the existing cattle guard across BIA 6; removing and replacing the existing guardrail and fencing; and other improvement work.

Phase one work includes installation of a drainage culvert and replacement of the cattle guard, and is scheduled for completion on May 4.  As always, schedules are subject to change based on weather and other unforeseen factors.

For more information, visit the project web site at If you have questions or comments, call the ADOT Project Information Line at 855.712.8530 or email

ADOT works to inform the public about planned highway restrictions and closures, but itís possible that unscheduled impacts might occur because of weather or other factors. For the most current information about highway conditions statewide, visit ADOTís Traveler Information Site at, follow ADOT on Twitter (@ArizonaDOT) or call 511, except while driving.

US 70 and BIA 6 detour route      
Drivers will use US 70 east to BIA 170, and then travel north on BIA 170 for approximately four miles to reconnect with westbound BIA 6 while th

Bartlett / SB cove launch ramp to open today
« on: January 10, 2017, 04:12 PM »
water at Bartlett has come up quite a bit due to runoff the SB cove cement ramp is supposed to open today.

Report of numerous dead carp floating up in the river end of Bartlett. G and F went out and investigated and counted quickly over 5,000 dead carp and one dead crappie floating in the river. They have taken water and fish samples. They do not believe it is any disease or golden algae they are thinking with this unseasonable warm weather that things may of turned over and reduced oxygen in the water very quickly. They will report their findings when complete.

General Discussion / Bass Pro shops has officially bought out Cabelas
« on: October 04, 2016, 06:46 AM »
they said yesterday that BPS has bought out Cabelas for 5.5 billion dollars, they are not sure if they will close cabelas stores or not. Johnny Morris who owns BPS just bought out Ranger boats a few months ago.

I saw a post that the crawfish festival in Heber is cancelled this year due to health problems with the organizer :crybaby2:  that was a fun time

General Discussion / Four species of crappie
« on: May 18, 2016, 03:10 PM »
Watched a fishing show this morning, they were fishing for crappie in Illinois and they said they hoped to catch all 4 species of crappie, I thought there were only two white and black crappie.

Well they caught four species, caught white crappie, black crappie, hybrid crappie (mix between white and black) and what is called a black nosed crappie. When they caught the black nose it looked like a black crappie but had a fairly wide black stripe running from its upper lip back across the top of the fish to its first dorsal fin almost looked like they painted it on, the host a crappie guide he said it is a more aggressive fish (can't remember where it orginated but it was not in the US?). Looked them up on google and several states have stocked them. Interesting didn't know there were hybrid whites (have caught a lot of whites and blacks in Pleasant) but never looked close to see if they were hybrid, you had to look close in the show to see the vertical lines on the black speckle of a hybrid :o

Bartlett / They opened the spillways at Horseshoe!! 3600cfs
« on: February 29, 2016, 08:38 PM »
Hope they told the people camped on the beach at cat bay and SB cove. SRP opened the spillways at Horseshoe this morning, Bartlett is probably going to be coming up several feet per day, bet it will be a muddy mess for a while.

General Discussion / Bartlett main ramp closed
« on: February 22, 2016, 11:09 AM »
word is TNF just closed the main ramp at Bartlett, so there are no ramps in the water you launch off the dirt point or the dirt area at SB cove.

Alamo / alamo fish cleaning station
« on: February 21, 2016, 08:12 AM »
does the new fish cleaning station at alamo have 110volt :dontknow:

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