Arizona Crappie Association
Fishing and Dock Talk => General Discussion => Topic started by: sparkchaser on November 26, 2012, 09:35 AM
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Ok, after some time of researching and doing some simple troubleshooting I have realized we have a slab leak at my house. Not only hot water, but cold water as well. Just wondering if anyone has dealt with this, and if so is it something I can tackle myself. I think I have located the general area of the hot water leak, by finding warm tile, but no idea where to begin on the cold side. By my calculations I'm loosing 1 gallon a minute to somewhere. Only to find my back yard saturated about 30 feet from where I feel the warm tile. We are controlling the water by closing a ball valve on the main to the house, but I worry about the slab falling. Especially since it is right at my son's room entrance. Any help, or refrences would greatly help and ease my llittle mind.
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Were you able to get ahold of RYCO?
Don't go PSYCHO - just call RYCO!! :greengrin: http://www.rycoplumbing.com Da Zone's Official Plumber....
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Homeowner's insurance would possibly cover that. Make sure you've gone that route to see and then have the professionals come in.
By the way, I love the title of this this. I saw "Slab Leak" and thought you were talking crappie and had to read it immediately!
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shut off hot water heater-
doubt that both are leaking at the same time.
cold water should work .
is line copper or pex? Call me at 907-953-3308
i'll walk you through it.
Wally g
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Hopefully homeowners insurance will pay for it?
they are using a new process now to fix under slab leaks, they have been using it for several years for broken or damaged sewer lines but they are now using it for fresh water, they inject an epoxy into the pipes and let it cure and it fixes the leak without tearing up the slab, heard rosy on the house talk about it the other week on the radio, might be an option for you, couple companies in the valley are now certified to do this type of repair?
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I had that happen years ago. You need to call your home-owners insurance company. Get a price from a plumbing contractor (Ryco would be a good choice I'm betting) . The insurance company will pay for everything except for the actual repair of the pipe.
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I'm in contact with my insurance, and yes, they pretty much said they will pay for any damage to the house caused by the leak, but not repair the leak???? I have coper lines, and there are two leaks, or more lol. Bruce, I will look into that type of repair, seems much easier than tearing up my house. Most people say to abandon the old lines and reroute lines up and over with pex. Of course that will not be covered. Have a guy coming tomorrow from city wide to find the hot water leak, and hopefully the cold water leak will be in the same area. Guess if and when I have them open a hole in the slab, will see how much the ground has been washed away. I have heard of people getting slurry pumped into the affected area so your slab won't fall. I'll keep you posted.
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good luck hopefully the leaks are near each other (they have sounding equipment that can pretty much locate a leak down to a very close area)
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I'm in contact with my insurance, and yes, they pretty much said they will pay for any damage to the house caused by the leak, but not repair the leak????
Wtf? Man they really rip you off don't they?
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Ok so the plumber showed up and said they need to come back with more equipment to actually locate the cold water leak which will be $450. Insurance says they will not pay for anything unless there is actual damage to the house, which of course at this point I don't have. Just have water leaking under the slab. So at this point I am going to see what they find tomorrow and go forward. Anyone have a jackhammer to rent? LOL
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You might want to check your drywall and carpet and tile, just a thought . a buddy of mine had that happen and he said the contractors had that leak pin pointed at a 2 to 4 ft sqare area. but the slab should be covered for that area will be damaged. and in need of repair.
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Dave:
When it happened to me, the plumber did all of the demolition , locating and floor slab replacement. He included the replacement of the flooring too. When he itemized the bill, he just separated out the actual cost of the repairing the pipe.....like $100. the total bill was $750. Insurance covered all but the $100 to fix the pipe. The plumbing contractor should be savvy enough to make it work out for both you and him.
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savvy indeed to commit fraud, not kosher. insurance is for damages not for repair and upkeep thats not unreasonalbe. thats why you need to find all real damage. mold issues in the drywall. a slab damaged or weakened, new moldings floor covering. chek it all and if at all discoloerd or changed in anyway at all its damage and has to be replaced. im not sure but ive heard that copper is not proper for pipes. indeed you might get the insurance co to repipe if they think the continued leaks from the copper will continue to run claims. a savvy plumber can tell you and estimate future issues.
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savvy indeed to commit fraud, not kosher. insurance is for damages not for repair and upkeep thats not unreasonalbe. thats why you need to find all real damage. mold issues in the drywall. a slab damaged or weakened, new moldings floor covering. chek it all and if at all discoloerd or changed in anyway at all its damage and has to be replaced. im not sure but ive heard that copper is not proper for pipes. indeed you might get the insurance co to repipe if they think the continued leaks from the copper will continue to run claims. a savvy plumber can tell you and estimate future issues.
The cheapest part of the whole thing is fixing the pipe. The actual labor and material to sweat soft rolled copper together would be 1/2 hour labor and $8.00 in 3/4 inch dia copper. THE INSURANCE COMPANY PAYS FOR EVERYTHING ELSE. Which part of that situation is fraud or not Kosher?
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most insurance companies don't cover mold removal anymore?
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Champ, you have an update for us?
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Sorry, computer got a virus on top of everything else. I got all of the supplies and tools I needed to do the repair, and started yesterday morning. As soon as we got the furnature moved out the carpet, pad, and tackstrip is soaked where my son's bed was. About 2 feet from where the plumber said the leak would be. So back to the insurance company now since there is actual damage inside of my house. Bought an infared gun, and started shooting the run that they mapped out and found another hot spot in the bathroom adjacent to my son's room. More to follow this week.......
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wow, long week ahead, make sure you take lots of pictures as you pull up carpet, padding etc. so you can show the insurance company, they can play dumb sometimes real bad.
good luck with the nightmare
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Holy Crap Dave!! Long week ahead for sure....
Sorry you are dealing with this & hope you're able to at least get some of the expenses covered.
If ya need help, give me a call. I'm kinda swamped with a backyard project myself plus trying to empty my moms place. If you do need help, give me a heads up & I'll make it happen though! BE CAREFUL OF YOUR BACK
With all that you're dealing with, I'm thinking you deserve a Saturday off to fish next weekend to rest your mind & body. We'll meet the rest of da fellas at Bartlett & spell out MenRats name with marker buoys......... :greengrin: Just kidding Tom!
Oh, and by da way Champ - GO BEARS!!
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What a hell of a deal Dave. If you get in a spot were going to need a couple of exta hands let me know
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Thanks a lot for the support fellas....To this point it has been quite a learning experience, but becoming a real inconvienence. Mostly to run outside and turn the water on and off, and the short supply of hot water. I really thought I would have been done with the repair yesterday and have my son back in his room by the end of this week. Now we have his furnature all over the house and he is in the spare room. I just hope the insurance company plays ball, and doesn't try to weasel out of it. If they do I will never do business with them again.
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One last update.....Insurance is going to pay for everything, including the pex reroute, locating the leak, carpet and pad replacement, and sheetrock repair/paint. Everything is moving in the right direction finally. Plumbing repair tomorrow, hopefully carpet, and wall repairs early next week so we can get back to somewhat of a normal lifestyle by next weekend. Thanks again for all the advice and encouragement.
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cool, finally some good news, glad to hear it