My Nephew and I fished out of Soda ,dirt ramp , no problems launching (18/5 boat) , we used a spyder rig set up like Art recommends with a small alteration they did not want it deep we were down about three feet to the first bait and 8 to ten to the bottom bait. Kept 12 real nice ones one 11inches the rest 13 and up 14 1/2 .Can only eat so many and I go back to my place on Mille lacs lake in Minnesota next week . So we let plenty go , go get em. ( Hooked and missed at the boat a few more , need a longer handle on the net ) . The magic color for us was red and white 1 1/2 inch tube bait on PINK 1/16 JIG with a minnow. BB got a few . The minnows came from the Miami shop operated by Big Dog but there was not a big dog sign outside so watch for the green building , the first building in Miami on the right side of the road they were real good minnows and we got a great count !!!