I have not found an honest car salesman or service department in the valley, even if they are supposed to be friends etc. You can go in and beat up the salesman on details etc. but what a pain, I go though my credit union, fleet pricing you never talk or have to go into a dealership, they bring vehicles to you to test drive and when you decide on a vehicle no BS add ons etc. you see the price you pay for it and they deal with the trade ins etc. This last time I bought my truck the guy says can you wait a couple more days I said sure why? he says 4th of july sale with an added $500 taken off. Been a real painless experience for the last 4 trucks I have bought get all the rebates and never deal with a dealership.