Meeting went well, I have a clear change of heart of what I thought they do or would be willing to do. Like Bruce said, a lot of this will end up being bog money. We still need a voice though as the first initiatives are slated to bass since they have been the most concerned in the past and well frankly bring in the money with big tournaments. Good things to come and am excited to hear Shea's point of view as well. As kevin stated, they did ask for our help, we plan to do something at SCF provided we aren't stepping on Shea's toes or who knows maybe he is a step ahead of us.